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By ADRIAN R GRUBER @Adrian29
    2023-09-29 17:53:14.606Z

    Hello team, informing you of serious issues aboard supercarrier pro and F-14 (All variants). After load and setup using either static/dynamic carriers my Tomcat has no manual throttle control and spoilers activate prior to cat shot. Manual throttle is only possible with stick forward movement. Once I maneuver and take tension on the cat I have no ability to throttle up to milpower using controller/keyboard.

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      Miltech Simulations @MiltechSimulations
        2023-09-29 18:18:11.907Z2023-09-29 18:28:41.145Z

        Alright, just checked and I do see the spoilers deploying - EDIT: As soon as gear is retracted, spoilers retract. Normal behaviour on my end, no issues there.

        Throttle works just fine on my end. Keep in mind that when the catapult is armed (yellow checkmark clicked), the aircraft will not move until aircraft is catapulted or catapult is disarmed.

        Could you please tell me how to replicate the issues with the throttle?

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        1. AADRIAN R GRUBER @Adrian29
            2023-09-29 20:07:35.352Z

            Thanks for your response, let me start from the beginning.

            1. Loading MSFS through steam. P.S. Latest update installed.
            2. All Tomcats from DC have been updated.
            3. Supercarrier has also been updated as of today.
            4. System has been restarted.
            5. MSFS controls have been configured on my keyboard and on my cable connected Gameboy controller.
            6. After loading MSFS, selecting Tomcat and weight I select Carrier CVN 68 (Static/Moving) In Keywest. Carrier is designated as "Departure".
            7. MSFS loads the flight, once load is completed my Tomcat shows its airborne and I'm prompted with "Ready to Fly".
            8. I prompt the ready to fly prompt and then I mouse up to toolbar and touch Supercarrier in toolbar.
            9. So the tool defaults to landing showing the meatball, I bypass right to control where I see a carrier representation with all the cats and elevetors with the "TAXI" "TURN IN WIND" and the "MULTIPLAYER" discsin blue.
            10. My Tomcat is on the deck with engines at 21% power with brakes and spoilers deployed. Without touching the throttles my Tomcat throttles up to 90% by itself. I have to manually apply brakes and keyboard throttle back eith no response and roll off the flight deck.
            11. In conclusion even if I set up for a complete "COLD START" on deck I can get her started but the throttles are unresponsive.

            If it would help I can record my launch and startup and post it to youtube for you to view.
            Thanks again.

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            1. Miltech Simulations @MiltechSimulations
                2023-09-29 22:22:46.145Z

                Unfortunately I cannot replicate this issue, nor the carrier affects the aircraft throttle in any way. Could you please confirm that this does not occur when spawning at any random airport, and it exclusively occurs on carriers?

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                  Miltech Simulations @MiltechSimulations
                    2023-09-29 22:59:28.711Z

                    Also, just to confirm - any issues with any other aircraft other than the Tomcat?

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                    1. AADRIAN R GRUBER @Adrian29
                        2023-09-30 02:02:52.553Z

                        https://youtu.be/f-iB6oIGADg
                        Follow this link to my youtube video showing full throttle contron during T/O

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                        1. Miltech Simulations @MiltechSimulations
                            2023-09-30 07:03:14.647Z

                            Two things I noticed here:

                            it seems you don't have the latest version of Supercarrier Pro installed. Please update the product (reinstall product)

                            You also had to use teleport to Parking. Instead of teleporting to Parking, use teleport to Runway (teleport to Parking sets aircraft to C&D and it is currently experimental - may break some of the systems, and will be improved on v1.0.2)

                            I also wonder, what are you assistance settings? Aircraft throttling itself may in fact be the result of your assistance settings taking over control of the aircraft. You seem to have some of those active as you have the taxi guidance, unlimited fuel and tooltips active. Set your assistance settings to "Hard" and try again.

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                            1. Miltech Simulations @MiltechSimulations
                                2023-09-30 07:50:59.835Z

                                Ok - I was able to replicate the issue.

                                Indeed the issue is related to assistance settings. It seems that on carriers, the Piloting Assist EASY detects as if the aircraft is in the air, and applies full throttle - but it also detects its on a hard surface, and deploys spoilers. Carriers seems to be incompatible with piloting assist.

                                Piloting Assist to Medium or Hard solves all issues with the Tomcat.

                                Also make sure to reinstall Supercarrier Pro to make sure you have the latest version installed.

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                                1. AADRIAN R GRUBER @Adrian29
                                    2023-10-02 12:52:50.913Z

                                    Good morning Miltech team. Congrats we have joy!!! Many thanks.

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